Description
The traffic island at Clifton and Pershing Drive has no sign telling drivers headed North on Pershing Drive that they must go around it if they are taking a left turn onto Clifton Ave. Some drivers taking a left onto Clifton Ave. go in the wrong lane.
15 Comments
Art (Guest)
The first time I wanted to make that turn, it was a bit unclear. Compare this to the intersection of Chatfield Street and Hawthorne Ave in which signs tell people to stay right and that the side closer to the driver is not a two way path. Remember that during snow, lane markings are not visible - it isn't just enough to say "Well, look at the markings on the street".
This sounds right to me, and isn't the first time this was reported. The trick is to put up a sign that is meaningful to the traffic on Pershing, but not confusing to the people on Clifton.
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Ryan Healey (Registered User)
I would agree. I know the area well and recently went to make that turn and while I was aware to go around the island, I noticed the signage is gone and someone could EASILY make a left turn before the island (which seems reasonable as the turn after is awkward) and be on the wrong side of the road. How fast can this be fixed?
Planner (Registered User)
At least a few days. Heads up just went to the PD & DOT.
Thanks Ryan & Bob- But this is the kind of issue you call the PD directly. Don't post dangerous situations here. call the police.
I can't believe these have been here since 2010!
northendbob (Guest)
Bob Guy (Registered User)
Planner (Registered User)
Probably some time in the future they will see the cost-benefits of converting to a site like this. However, particularly where safety is involved, you can't just assume that the correct department will see your complaint/issue. I track this site diligently for the Valley and I have apparently missed this one for three years.
Angelo Smarth (Guest)
Planner (Registered User)
Anyway, to your point, it's not the thing you notice if you're familiar with the intersection. If you've been driving the intersection for years and know the correct way to negotiate it, you tend not to notice the missing signage on an approach you don't use. It's not apparent unless you actually drive the wrong way or have someone coming at you the wrong way. The other thing is that most people who want to get to Clifton / Division from Pershing Drive northbound will use Division Street hill. It's quicker and easier most of the time. Also, there have been no accidents so nothing to indicate a problem that would trigger a site assessment from us planners or APD traffic.
As soon as I brought it to the attention to APD the Chief responded immediately and DOT got involved. It's probably not installed yet but there may be cones or temporary signage in the interim. We're not infallible; don't beat up these officers who are responding to crime, not looking for signs that aren't there.
Happy New Year!
Bob Guy (Registered User)
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